Intellectual discussions

Whenever Kaka goes online, we start pulling out concepts that was discuss in a way that its pretty difficult for some people to compehend. Here is today's conversation about "Fiction and Reality".

Ziggy Latif says:
my mocks, I chose "Fiction is unrelated to reality"
Ziggy Latif says:
That's where my tutor said I wrote with passion and knowledge in my content
Naj says:
nice
Ziggy Latif says:
i shud show u the essay sometime ^_^
Naj says:
but... fiction iS related to reality... ?
Naj says:
at least, i believe so
Ziggy Latif says:
yes it is
Ziggy Latif says:
there is fiction in truth, and truth in fiction
Ziggy Latif says:
i didnt want to use that concept because i think its complicated
Naj says:
well not really if you think about it it terms of how we perceive things
Naj says:
like, what is true to me is what i think is true
Naj says:
even if my mind is imagining things i.e creating fiction, it's true therefore there's trutch
Naj says:
*truth
Ziggy Latif says:
ah, ur thinking of that philosophy
Ziggy Latif says:
i think therefore i am
Naj says:
and fiction is just our imagination reducing reality to things we think we can avoid confronting in real life, that is to say, we unconsciously acknowledge 'it' as reality and reduce it's form through imagination and pretend that 'it' is fiction
Naj says:
hahahahha
Naj says:
yup
Naj says:
and a little psychology
Ziggy Latif says:
sorry, had to absorb all that up
Naj says:
right hehehehehe
Ziggy Latif says:
ur saying we decide its fiction
Naj says:
no, i'm saying fiction is reality and reality is fiction
Naj says:
because, fiction is subjective
Naj says:
reality is subjective
Ziggy Latif says:
i c
Ziggy Latif says:
let me get this straight
Naj says:
no 'person' can 100% produce an objective reality
Ziggy Latif says:
I think its impossible that zani is going to jump out of the toilet with his underwear on his head because I 'believe' he's in another room and its very unlikely he'll go crazy
Ziggy Latif says:
but that's because it is my assumption that he's not going to jump out of the toilet with his underwear on his head
Naj says:
yeah, your subconscious is already assuming *key word=assuming* the rational thing, rational as what society likes and rational as what society likes and rational as what reality is
Naj says:
but that's a pretty funny example
Ziggy Latif says:
its extreme, but it might work with an essay ^_^
Naj says:
*but* if you were insane, or deranged. and you start thinking that zani wiLl jump out like that, he will, right? at least, because your reality does not conform to 'rational assumptions'
Naj says:
i think that kind of proves that fiction and reality are connected
Naj says:
i think therefore i am. i think therefore it is.
Naj says:
hahahhaha
Ziggy Latif says:
if i am insane, thn I think my assupmtion will be correct and zani wears his underwear on his head with a dancing greeen martian
Ziggy Latif says:
cool
Naj says:
yeah hahahhahaah something like that


Complicated, isn't it?